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Communication Abuse and Deaf People

Vlog Summary: Struck by a Norwegian professional’s use of the description “bordering on child abuse” to describe denying children access to electronic media, Sharon Duchesneau asks why the term “child abuse” is not widely used when referring to communication injustices that many Deaf children face. Something is wrong with the picture when the seriousness of these situations is downplayed.

Here is the link to the article mentioned in the vlog.

To cite:

Duchesneau, S. (2007, August 31). Communication Abuse and Deaf People. ASC on the Couch. Retrieved August 31, 2007, from http://www.ascdeaf.com/blog/?p=318

50 Comments
  1. Cheryl August 31, 2007

    Something’s definitely wrong with the picture! What amazes me is that it’s 2007 and we’re still dealing with this dilemma. Wondering what it would take to shake up the whole thing, sigh. Thanks for bringing this up!!

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  2. C August 31, 2007
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  3. DE August 31, 2007

    Well said.

    What kind of society do we live in where 1) it’s morally acceptable to deprive Deaf children of language, education, and happiness, and 2) we don’t confront the system that prevents Deaf children from achieving their fullest potential?

    Onwards and upwards, Deaf liberation!

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  4. Edward Nugent August 31, 2007

    Maybe deaf should leave American and live in Europe.

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  5. Oscar the Observer August 31, 2007

    Interesting, to say the least.

    Maybe because of the culture of rugged individualism? “If you can get it, you are responsible for it” mindset instead of “here is everything you need to succeed and I/we will be more than happy to help you as long as you want it”?

    My small-time two cents :).

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  6. A Deaf Pundit August 31, 2007

    Wow. A definitely thought-provoking vlog.

    I would say that in the examples you brought up – those are child neglect and exploitation cases. The teacher is exploiting the child because she’s being paid to teach, but she’s not, and the child doesn’t have a very strong voice to speak out against that. And it’s neglect, because nobody’s teaching the child, like you said, how to be self-sustaining and independent.

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  7. deafk August 31, 2007

    Finally, welcome back, smile.

    Yeah, this is something we need to improve our deaf communities. We need to speak up, and we need to establish the bills to protect ourselves.

    Are those professionals you were discussing with deaf? Just curious.

    I am glad you mentioned this.

    deafk

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  8. Jean Boutcher August 31, 2007

    It is unmistakenly child abuse. Those who avoid using a phrase, “child abuse,” have a deep sense of guilt for depriving children of communciation access and have no business to teach there. Or should I use a stronger langauge: “they should be fired” because they deny that leaving deaf children isloated is a form of child abuse. Someone must report to the WFD.

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  9. Katie September 1, 2007

    I am happy you are back. Social workers (from child protection agencies) should be checking deaf children’s homes and see if there is any communication abuse. If there is, they should warn the parents to make accommodations immediately or they should remove deaf children from homes and send them to foster homes with appropriate accommodations (ASL environment, VP, lighting system). We need more deaf-friendly homes who are willing to take in foster children.

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  10. Katie September 1, 2007

    I forgot to add that social workers should check if there is good communication between parents and deaf children (i.e. can they understand what they are trying to say to each other?). If not, social workers should require parents go and take classes to be sure they can communicate with their deaf children effectively OR parents lose their children.

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  11. Gunsbut September 1, 2007

    Sound not certain to use Child Abuse! I would say it may call lack of communicate with an interent and Abuse mean reject things or hit or call name as It have a lot of Different option as well.I guess
    All DEAD /HOH better sit to discuss what does child abuse in each city in CANADA/USA and would get a result with a great reason if necessary!

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  12. ASC September 1, 2007

    It’s good to be back! Thanks for the comments, everyone.

    Cheryl, shaking up the whole thing is definitely a big challenge. You know how the saying goes, “the personal is political”? All the little things we do count – speaking up when we see communication injustices, being diplomatic but firm in describing what we see as abusive, choosing not to look the other way out of fear, etc.

    C, thanks for the links. Sadly, a search of google, as well as professional/academic search engines, brings up practically nothing related to communication/language abuse and Deaf people.

    DE, Edward, and Oscar, it does make me wonder about our society and culture. Just like in any struggle for human rights, the oppressed minority members have to make a lot of noise before changes happen.

    Deaf Pundit, yes, those examples fall under the realm of neglect and exploitation, both of which are types of abuse. It’s understandable that people will jump up and intervene in obvious cases of physical or sexual abuse, but when it comes to subtle forms of abuse like neglect and exploitation, people are much slower to intervene. In the long run, the impact of neglect on one’s mental health can be extremely traumatic. Neglect, in addition to isolation, is serious child abuse.

    Deafk, those were Deaf and hearing professionals at the meeting. It’s interesting that both Candace and I are Deaf and when we used the word “abuse” to describe the situation in which the student couldn’t follow the teacher’s signing, the other Deaf people in the room were silent. It wasn’t until one hearing CODA interpreter expressed her agreement, that a couple of other Deaf professionals seemed to feel more confident and started to agree. It may be that this reflects an unconscious need for hearing people’s approval or a fear of being labeled “militant” and not wanting to voice a strong opinion unless it feels safe to do so.

    Jean, yes, removing the teacher would be a good start. We need an accountability department that oversees communication access at every level of our society (family, school, work, etc.). We also need to stop hiring professionals who can’t communicate on an equal level with students.

    Katie, I think that’s a great idea to have social workers or other professionals checking for communication access. It might seem extreme – and it’s predictable that people would react defensively about parental rights – but when it comes to a basic human right to communication and education, our children do need more protection and advocacy than they are currently getting.

    Gunsbut, abuse means more than hitting or calling names. Abuse can mean neglect, or not doing something, like not feeding a child or not giving the child the opportunity to learn ASL. The Norwegian woman said not giving internet or cell phone access to hearing children is almost like child abuse, because it takes away the opportunity for them to learn important social and technological skills they need in the future.

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  13. RLM September 1, 2007

    GOOD to have you back on the vlog/blogscape, Sharon!

    Depriving anyone’s communication access to decent education ought to be seen as a true human rights violation within the educational facilities of the deaf and public services.

    Scandavian countries and the European Union usually address human rights issues more seriously than the United States of America.

    Americans ought to understand the wide array of definition for child abuses beside physical and verbal assaults and poor parenting skills.

    Many state commissions of the deaf are real “joke”! Where are their committment and real actions on the behalf of deaf youngsters? Those vulnerable and voiceless population like deaf youngsters are not able to exercise their constitutional rights to the votings.

    There are not any citizen-appointed board to review and process grieveance among deaf youngsters.

    Robert L. Mason (RLM)

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  14. Aidan Mack September 1, 2007

    Hi Sharon,

    You made a wonderful point about child abuse. We had been through this just same as you. I understand you. It is good that you take a stand and speak up what you had observed about the situation.

    It is so sad to see that there is actually taboo for Deaf people who take a stand and speak up about CI and Oralism. They constantly get attacked from these narrow-minded people who demand us to shut up and to accept CI and ORALISM no matter how bad they are. So sad to see that… It is good thing that they are not scaring us at all. It is worth to fight for because Being Deaf is the most beautiful and they do not need to be cured.

    I wonder if it is because some people aren’t comfortable enough to speak out because what they had seen in Deaf community where a small group of narrow-mind people keeping calling us Deaf militant/attackers.

    WE WILL NOT COMPROMISE… :o) We love Deaf babies too much. These hearing parents don’t know what to do so we need to step in and work with them. They get wrong and misleading information about Deaf community, and Deaf children, and its word, “Deaf.” They got advices from ignorant doctors and audiologists who never took Deaf/ASL studies or anything with Deaf-related.

    Deaf children are ours. If a child falls down on the ground and begins to cry, I am not going to say, “Well this child is not my responsibility since she/he is not my child.” I would pick her/him up and comfort her/him like she/he is my child.

    I find it irony that some people make comments saying that you made a good point but they called us Deaf Militant/ attackers because we speak out and discuss our views on CI and ORALISM as a child abuse. I find it very interesting. I wonder why.

    Aidan

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  15. Jean Boutcher September 1, 2007

    Addendum: They also are guilty for neglecting deaf children’s
    EDUCATIONAL technology to which the majority of hearing children
    have access.

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  16. John Egbert September 1, 2007

    I agree that we, the Deaf Community are not speaking out loud enough about Deaf child abuse and at the same time we in the Deaf community know and talk about it.

    The biggest problem is those small group of narrow-minded deaf people that keeps calling the Deaf leaders militant/troublemakers.

    Sharon, thanks for bring this issue up and you got me to think about writing more blogs on Deaf child abuse which many more Deaf people should.

    John

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  17. michele September 1, 2007

    Hi,

    This is interesting about what you are bringing up — I myself would feel more comfortable using the word neglect instead of abuse.

    Likewise if a child who may have CP or whatever is in wheelchair, parents do not provide the right therapy such as hiring physical therapist/occupational therapist,they just let the child sit in the wheelchair most of the time and not enabling hir to learn how to build up muscles so that the child can learn how to walk and become more independent is probably considered as neglect. It is the same analogy with parents needing to use technology and ASL to work/communicate with their deaf child. I wonder if it is because no one bothers to enforce the theory on parents that they need to provide the equipment and to learn ASL.

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  18. Mishkazena September 1, 2007

    Sharon and Candace,

    I agree. I did google after watching your vlog and wasn’t surprised to see an absence of academic and research publications on child abuse, deafness, and language deprivation…. just the blogs/vlogs.

    So there is an excellent opportunity to do something. Perhaps you could write a report for the scholarly periodical 🙂

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  19. shrimpy September 1, 2007

    Can I ask you somethings- Why The Parent wont let Kids (any Ages) do not Use the Comptuer Cause-They was Afrida of Missing or Run away or Dirty things on comptuer you know what Iam talk about it, Never Know How Their Parent Feel for Their Childs? When The Childs cant stand who is Parent keep say No to Childs so The Childs cant stand when The Parent keep Say NO Everythings Might The Child Run away It reason also Whoever Child become Deaf so They (parent) wanna Keep Childs and Keep Safe their own Childs make sure The Child grow up . Sound Like that I agree with you,The Parent Should have Let Childs Need to Learn how talk and sign langs and another Things The Childs Learn lots more then Parent.The Parent dont understand what kinda of Deaf when The baby come out in the worlds (it was Long time ago ) also But It time been lots of Change Parent just start learn and Move their Feet up and Learn how deaf’s Way and whoever deaf can do anythings by itself. I know Parent wanna make sure If Whoever deaf can do or not so Need to back off on Any one deaf can do it . Wish that parent Being Proud of Whoever Childs deaf can do it anythings what He/she need anythings .

    I think it that all
    Hope so Hear from you and Keep Touch with me it more welcome 🙂
    See you around
    Shrimpy

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  20. ASL Risen September 1, 2007

    Wow.. Here’s my response link:

    http://aslisrisen.blogspot.com/2007/09/representating-role-for-future-deaf.html

    I gotta go watch national news before I go work later this afternoon.

    Thanks, Sharon for bringing up your vlog on ASC!

    Have a very good long Labor’s Day weekend! Shawn

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  21. Judy September 1, 2007

    Well-Signed!! I am glad that you brought up this issues. Honestly, I have seen many Deaf people speak (signed) up, bring up this same issues, and never start the action to stop this child abuse or Deaf abuse from happening. There are too many oppressors who oppressed us from taking the actions so they dropped the issues. I am hoping that today all of us would have to get rid of the elephant and start our action now.
    Judy

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  22. ASC September 2, 2007

    RLM, yes, a human rights violation, clear and simple. Hopefully, more people will come to see this point.

    Aidan and John, look at all the civil rights advocates who were called militants or radicals when they spoke up and called for change. I agree, one of the saddest things is when Deaf people use these labels against other Deaf people.

    Michele, neglect is just one of many categories of abuse. I believe the term “neglect” feels more comfortable to some people because it seems to suggest unintentional, passive, or indirect harm, whereas “abuse” may be more likely to conjure images of active, intentional, or very physical harm. As a psychotherapist who has worked with many Deaf people over the years, I can tell you that neglect of communication needs causes truly devastating long-term effects, equal to or even greater than other forms of abuse.

    Mishkazena, yes, it’s too bad that none of the published research really touches on this topic. ASC will definitely work on getting academic research published on communication abuse issues.

    Shrimpy, I agree, it is often very difficult for hearing parents to make decisions about their Deaf children’s upbringing. I wish Deaf people’s opinions are more respected by all the professionals who work with the hearing parents.

    ASL Risen, thanks for vlogging your response. Please see my comment on your vlogsite.

    Judy, you’re right. Many people do give up or feel like it is not worth trying to take action. If we think like that, nothing is going to change.

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  23. Katherine September 2, 2007

    I am glad this topic is brought up. What I understand is that communication also includes language. Without language, communication is almost useless.

    Far too many deaf children have fallen through the crack, mainly because of lack of communication/language access perpetuated by the system, involving the medical establishment and schools. They grow up to be illiterate and uneducated often not at their own fault yet those responsible get away with murder. I forgot the name of this movie based on a true story, but her name is Katie. She was chained in her bedroom since she was little with no exposure to language.I know many deaf children are not chained but they had no or little exposure. Years of doing all of these things outside ASL and bilingualism in ASL/English have proven nothing and vicious cycle remain.

    It is disheartening to read about how other deaf people were silent until a hearing person validated your input. This is all too familiar. Many deaf people would agree with me and when the time comes for me to stand up to the oppressor(s), they back out. There are more of these people in the Deaf community than the kind of hearing allies we seek. This is an experience I have gone through going all the way back to when I was 12 years old and still to this day. I end up looking bad and labelled as a Deaf militant when deaf people continue to come to me in private. The oppressors are probably laughing because they have managed to weaken us and keep us divided to gain their own agenda. I have witnessed firsthand how deaf people wouldn’t agree with me, nor even my deaf brother until my hearing brother enforced what we said. What deaf people need to realize is the power of unifying among us all to get the messages across.

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  24. Mishkazena September 2, 2007

    Katherine

    I got the idea of how hearing people in the Deaf Community operated when they attempted to ‘put me down’ some notches during the protest coverage. I thought that their actions were ludricious and laughable… until I saw how serious they were. Other deafies told me how typical this conduct is which I found even more appalling.

    So I can understand why the other deaf people didn’t affirm the statements until a hearing person did. Hopefully soon, deaf people will feel empowered and won’t need the affirmation from hearing people at all 🙂

    ASC, I am glad to hear of your plans to address this in professional journals 🙂

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  25. Gunsbut September 2, 2007

    Interesting Point but IT seem big Diversity in any country like Norway or Sweden and USA. Norway feel to believe to call abuse if they use interenet and USA feel different as well. Maybe they heard a lot of negative over the world espically USA.We all DEAF have only lack to MEDIA to be key to inform over the world and explain about Intertnet/ASL/ Abuse etc.Children have right to learn any communication except porn.volience….. It is not easy If norway call child abuse then We may respect their wished unless Norway may change their mind one day.Hearing people have war and DEAF people have ASL problem as well. THey are awaring of war than DEAF to be going on! COME ON Think of Media…..WE DEAF try to do my best and go down the road.

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  26. Jimmy Cardosi September 2, 2007

    Welcome back! Miss ASC blogs or vlogs!

    Once again I agree with you, Sharon, about Deaf people being abuse in communication, education, language so on…

    And I definitely agree with Aidan Mack and heard many times how my mother grew up as oral child and person and my half aunt which is hard of hearing herself. Many times I was glad I am born to deaf parents as i’ve seen many of my friends growing up as oral, being frustrated and angry, often limited.

    those who said not abuse but neglected and I agreed with your respond to them since background of their life don’t see it as abuse then the article is brought up then either disagree with it as it is a strong word or agree with it. Those countries are more progressive and straight-forwarded compared to America.

    About Deaf Militants or troublemakers – we should thank them because of them, hearing people or media are more aware about our community now if not for them – nothing will happen.

    Thank you for bringing it up and make others realize and think about the situation!

    you plant a seed in all of us but up to us to let it grow or die.

    Jimmt

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  27. Jac September 3, 2007

    Since you were saying to called “Abuse Child” that the parents doesn’t allow their children to use the computer to corresponse, or surfing to learn thru the web site to gain their educadion in other countries. Also you are saying, that “Abuse Child” in American when the students do not understand what the teacher use a sign language. “Abuse” is too strong word. I would say it probably called “Neglect” because the parents fail to provide the child’s need for their future education thru computer. For American — teacher fails to provide the students to learn new sign language to improve them to understand their sign language developed. I never knew about sign language at all till I attented a residental deaf school, all teachers taught me to learn how to communication by ASL, that means their responsible to do job to educate all students. Also, in oother countries, the parents’ responsible to support their child to learn thru the computer. Now, see those both of them are fail to be responsible to educate them! It probably called “Neglect” child. This is my opinion. If I did not get it right, please correct me, thanks!

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  28. ALAN JEFFERS September 3, 2007

    I LOOKED YOUR VIEDO TALK ABOUT DEAF CHILD ABUSE NOT ALLOWED I THINK BEST FOR THEM ANOTHER DEAF COUNTIES SHOULD BE MOVE TO OUR AMERICA GIVE THEM GOOD EDUCATION AND DEAF NEEDS LIKE FLSH LIGHT AND DOORBELL WILL FEEL BETTER THAN THEM IF DEAF PEOPLE RATHER STAY THERE THEN AMERICA CAN GET SET UP ADA LAWS OVER THERE WILL HELP THEM BETTER SERIVCE WITH THEM IT WILL BE DIFFERENT LIKE AMERICA IS ADA LAWS EDA MEAN EUROPE LAWS WHY NOT HELP THEM WILL GIVE WORLD HAPPY AND THANKS FOR AMERICA WHO WILLING TO WORK FOR YOU

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  29. drmzz September 3, 2007

    A powerful statement indeed. Had the same impact when I learned from someone that not signing to your deaf child is considered child abuse. Censor the child, one’s merely increasing her/his wants. Keep on vlogging.

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  30. hoeyhemp September 3, 2007

    If wont provide what child needs vp/cc/lights/communcation-access and more I would call it ABUSE yes

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  31. Gunsbut September 3, 2007

    I don’t think that Children have VP/Interenet/TTY and Hoeyhemp said it call ABUSE What does it mean? LET THEM LEARN COMMUNICATE BY THEM AND HAVE AN OPPURUNITY TO COLLECT INFORMATION IF VOILINCE OR PORN COME IN AND WOULD CALL ABUSE YEAH AND IT IS PARENT OR PARENT GUARDISON RESPONSIBLE AS SIMPLE> ABUSE HAVE A VARIETY OF MEANING ! EUROPE ARE DIFFERENT WITH USA/CANADA FOR LAW!

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  32. Mishkazena September 3, 2007

    Neglect is also considered a form of child abuse

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  33. C September 3, 2007

    Society considers anything that deprives a child of basic necessity a form of child abuse such as starving the child, not providing proper clothing, not providing proper living space, not allowing a child to go to school, etc. So, language suppression is and can be considered child abuse. However, this is a very thin line when you have parents who say, it is my decision to not allow my child to learn ASL, I want my child to learn to speak. Is it child abuse? it’s kind of bordering on a fine line. While, I may say, yeah it is in some regard but the courts might see it differently. The child may grow up and lash back at their parents and say, it was child abuse! And the parents will say, well, I did what I thought was the best thing to do at the time. I’d call it ignorance. So, bottom line is we all have to keep educating and spread the word and advocate for the future deaf children. To many parents, finding out their child is deaf, is a “Stigma” and they will do anything to FIX it! We need to change that perception. And, how we go about changing it, makes a big difference.

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  34. gnarlydork September 4, 2007

    Very good insight–
    Perhaps a better term will be “child negligence”? It is in the same vein as “child abuse”… but I do agree that people are hesitant to use “abuse” freely to describe the inequality of access and language for Deaf children. Maybe they just don’t want to acknowledge that they are abusers. The first step is always denial. Prevail, and they will realize their errors.
    Very good vlog.

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  35. deafk September 4, 2007

    To #33.

    C –

    You have a good insight. We need to look hard at this such situation, and try to change it to better situation among those hearing people. Why not send this comment to DBC? Perhaps they need to hear this perspective (sp?), too. Thanks for sharing this with us.

    deafk

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  36. Betty Colonomos September 5, 2007

    Dear Sharon and ASC,

    So glad you brought up this issue as I have been thinking (and speaking out) about the prevalence of child abuse in our country and around the world. Many of the comments here raised good points. One that may have been overlooked is that Deaf and hearing people are reluctant to use the term “abuse” because it is usually happens due to ignorance, not malice. But ignorance is not an acceptable excuse, especially in this day and age of wide access to information about Deaf people and the suffering they have endured (and still are!) If a family physically or sexually abuses a child, are they excused from this behavior because they grew up in families where this was normal and they didn’t realize the damage it does? Of course not! Child protective services would remove them from the home. If parents and other people in control made the effort to find out that deaf children’s intellectual, psychological, and emotional scars from limited exposure to meaningful communication with the family and world at large are very deep. It prevents the establishment and development of important relationships that affect us throughout our lives; it deprives Deaf children of self-esteem and identity. I don’t need to say more about this to your readers; I only hope we can overcome this willingness to allow people to remain ignorant and apathetic within our own community. That qualifies as an abuse of power in my book. Keep up the dialogue!

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  37. Jared September 8, 2007

    Where do we go from here?

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  38. Jean Boutcher September 10, 2007

    Jared,

    Have you seen Ella Lentz’s blogpost today? A muuuuuuust read.

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  39. Katie September 22, 2007

    See this video about a woman who was abused by oral education.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kedHE9bcN9w

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  40. Jean Boutcher September 22, 2007

    It is interesting to note that whilst hearing Americans do not bother to learn ASL to teach computer to deaf children, Bill Gates and William Buffet are deeply concerned about children being technologically neglected in underprivileged and poor countries (India, Sri Lanka, and Africa). Therefore, I feel that C.A.I.D.
    should deny a teaching certificate to hearing teachers who do not learn ASL to teach deaf children.

    Hearing Americans cannot do anything with deaf children
    because they cannot sign

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  41. pawan birla April 5, 2008

    HI DEAF SAME JOY.

    You made a wonderful point about child abuse. We had been through this just same as you. I understand you. It is good that you take a stand and speak up what you had observed about the situation.

    It is so sad to see that there is actually taboo for Deaf people who take a stand and speak up about CI and Oralism. They constantly get attacked from these narrow-minded people who demand us to shut up and to accept CI and ORALISM no matter how bad they are. So sad to see that… It is good thing that they are not scaring us at all. It is worth to fight for because Being Deaf is the most beautiful and they do not need to be cured.

    I wonder if it is because some people aren’t comfortable enough to speak out because what they had seen in Deaf community where a small group of narrow-mind people keeping calling us Deaf militant/attackers.

    WE WILL NOT COMPROMISE… :o) We love Deaf babies too much. These hearing parents don’t know what to do so we need to step in and work with them. They get wrong and misleading information about Deaf community, and Deaf children, and its word, “Deaf.” They got advices from ignorant doctors and audiologists who never took Deaf/ASL studies or anything with Deaf-related.

    Deaf children are ours. If a child falls down on the ground and begins to cry, I am not going to say, “Well this child is not my responsibility since she/he is not my child.” I would pick her/him up and comfort her/him like she/he is my child.

    I find it irony that some people make comments saying that you made a good point but they called us Deaf Militant/ attackers because we speak out and discuss our views on CI and ORALISM as a child abuse. I find it very interesting. I wonder why.

    PAWAN BIRLA AT AHMEDABAD (INDIA)

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  42. pawan birla April 5, 2008

    Dear deaf
    Can I ask you somethings- Why The Parent wont let Kids (any Ages) do not Use the Comptuer Cause-They was Afrida of Missing or Run away or Dirty things on comptuer you know what Iam talk about it, Never Know How Their Parent Feel for Their Childs? When The Childs cant stand who is Parent keep say No to Childs so The Childs cant stand when The Parent keep Say NO Everythings Might The Child Run away It reason also Whoever Child become Deaf so They (parent) wanna Keep Childs and Keep Safe their own Childs make sure The Child grow up . Sound Like that I agree with you,The Parent Should have Let Childs Need to Learn how talk and sign langs and another Things The Childs Learn lots more then Parent.The Parent dont understand what kinda of Deaf when The baby come out in the worlds (it was Long time ago ) also But It time been lots of Change Parent just start learn and Move their Feet up and Learn how deaf’s Way and whoever deaf can do anythings by itself. I know Parent wanna make sure If Whoever deaf can do or not so Need to back off on Any one deaf can do it . Wish that parent Being Proud of Whoever Childs deaf can do it anythings what He/she need anythings .

    I think it that all
    Hope so Hear from you and Keep Touch with me it more welcome
    See you around

    Reply
  43. pawan birla April 5, 2008

    Dear deaf
    Can I ask you somethings- Why The Parent wont let Kids (any Ages) do not Use the Comptuer Cause-They was india of Missing or Run away or Dirty things on comptuer you know what Iam talk about it, Never Know How Their Parent Feel for Their Childs? When The Childs cant stand who is Parent keep say No to Childs so The Childs cant stand when The Parent keep Say NO Everythings Might The Child Run away It reason also Whoever Child become Deaf so They (parent) wanna Keep Childs and Keep Safe their own Childs make sure The Child grow up . Sound Like that I agree with you,The Parent Should have Let Childs Need to Learn how talk and sign langs and another Things The Childs Learn lots more then Parent.The Parent dont understand what kinda of Deaf when The baby come out in the worlds (it was Long time ago ) also But It time been lots of Change Parent just start learn and Move their Feet up and Learn how deaf’s Way and whoever deaf can do anythings by itself. I know Parent wanna make sure If Whoever deaf can do or not so Need to back off on Any one deaf can do it . Wish that parent Being Proud of Whoever Childs deaf can do it anythings what He/she need anythings .

    I think it that all
    Hope so Hear from you and Keep Touch with me it more welcome
    See you around

    Reply
  44. Britney April 8, 2008

    I am not deaf but am taking an ASL class right now because I would love to communicate with deaf people and learn more about your culture. I didn’t understand what was said in the clip because I don’t understand too much yet so I wish there were subtitles. I got a little bit of the jist of it from the comments below and think it was about Cochlear implants/speaking and sign language. I think it’s great that you guys are bringing this issue up because it is a very important and contraversial issue but what do you think if a child wants to have a CI to be able to communicate with the hearing world and their hearing friends but will also stay closely apart of the deaf culture and use sign language as well as learn how to speak, which would no doubt bring the deaf world and hearing world closer?

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  45. Lauren April 22, 2008

    I’m deaf and I was brought up in public schools where I learned crucial communication skills. I’m not sorry one bit at all. I later learned sign language and got involved in the deaf community. I’m not trying to offend anyone, I just want deaf people to open up their minds a little bit. Think about this: If you had a cochlear implant, you are given the choice to hear whereas if you don’t have one, then you have no choice. Why let this oppourtunity pass? It’s only to benefit your lives, its not an attack on deaf culture at all. Children can grow up and learn to speak and read lips if they want to, they dont HAVE to. There are so many benefits to having a cochlear implant growing up. Look at the grammar problems as they struggle through english. Look at the statistics and the percentages of deaf people who do not even go to college. Look at how many are recieving social security and wasting their lives away. I dont know, but there has to be a change in the education systems in deaf institutes. There has to be options for children who want to learn to speak who want to learn to succeed. Any one agree? I know there are hundreds of very smart deaf people who have succeeded but why not allow more? why not set a good example?

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  46. L September 2, 2008

    There actually is some literature referring to communication abuse/neglect. I have an old limited Gallaudet publication that includes an article mentioning this issue. I have also read about communication neglect (categorized as both “intentional” and “unintentional”) in literature about elder abuse. (Let me know if you’d like me to pin down more exact references for you.) If you published on this, I think it would be a VERY important contribution to the literature. If you are able to focus on the impact it has on the deaf child/person and examples of what helps recovery, I think that would be most powerful, personally. Also, I think the same actions experienced by two deaf people can have different effects, and that would be interesting (but maybe too complicated) to look at.

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  47. Betty Colonomos September 3, 2008

    After re-watching your vlog and all the comments, I felt the need to add another point. I believe that when hearing children are denied access, the outrage is because people realize what is lost. This is because the expectation for success is high and lack of access limits the human potential that is there from birth. Unfortunately one explanation for some/much of this behavior towards Deaf children is that they are seen as broken; the expectations are lower and lack of access is the fault of the “disease/handicap”, not society. In other words if your ears don’t work, the you miss a lot of things, instead of there are some modes of access that are better for certain groups of people. Deaf people want is their fair share of what they CAN have access to, instead of limiting access. There is no evidence that making the world more accessible to Deaf people takes anything away from hearing people. Actually developing more visual and spatial skills would help a lot!

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  48. harleygirl248 November 11, 2008

    Sharon

    Wow, excellent point on child abuse. I am glad you bought up that issue on deaf child abuse be either at home or schools by not providing the communicatation access to this child or “forced” oral to communicate where child may not be able to grasp in lipreading. I consider it abuse.

    Its very sad. I came from large hearing family. I have no connection with them when I became adult living my own life because they refused to call me through video phone relay or very rarely a email.

    I hope you bring that research up and educate hearing people about deaf child abuse that are the most overlooked subject because we do not want to talk about it and why?

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  49. DeafSweetMind December 5, 2008

    Oh yes that is definitely a Child abuse. It should not leave any children behind the Education especially Deaf babies/children ‘s right to have ASL. SO BE IT! That is tough luck on these professionals who doesnt want to face the consequence of these truths of having a real abuse in our ASL education all along. NO more BS with AGB s rules that is a big liar for so many years.This should NOT be hurting many millions of Deaf people from the past and today at all. PERIOD! It s the truth hazard evidence to keep it up with their child abuses toward Deaf kid’s ASL Education.

    First ASL is a must for our Deaf children’s abilities to gain more intellectual skills that can helps us learn and understand the concept of language first. It s eventually will follow up to learn how to speak or lip-reading in speech therapy if it works out for a deaf child. It s not necessary to have or force deaf children to deal with ASL and oral speaking at the same time that will not work out well. It should be ASL or orally speaking in English written as our choices to make. No one should force Deaf babies/children to speak alone that damaged many millions of Deaf people s lives already because there are still having the barrier of communication. Sighs!

    I agreed with Harleygirl248 and some others’ s comment.

    Thank you ! 🙂

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  50. Deaf Elder Abuse Victim April 29, 2011

    I’m a hearing-impaired elder abuse of senior citizen victim after my dad died since 2009 to continue now.

    My hearing dementia 84 years old mom and I never knew that my hearing siblings abused to control against us after my dad died. I never knew that my siblings evaded to take out my mom to her bad house board and room care on March 5, 2010 until she was innocently died with bad and wrong medinces on March 5, 2011 without my full consents.

    I never knew that my hearing siblings abused to block me to see my own sweetie mom after March 5, 2010 until March 5, 2011 without any court order and good reaonable causes expect my siblings abused to order me to see my own mom at the resturant for just limit 30 minuties without any court order. My mom and I were greatly suffered for not seeing gather after March 5, 2010 until March 11, 2011 without any court order expect we saw gather 1 hour visitation per year without any court order and reasonable causes.

    I was deeply shocked and disgusted with very much bad Los Angeles County Adult Protection Service social workers who abused to make fun of me as a deaf elder abuse of senior citizen victim after my dad and mom died. They never fought to protect me from my siblings who abused to control against my privacy life and decision rights after my dad and mom died.

    I still scream to cry harder every day as I couldn’t sleep every nights while I’m a greater helpless and speechless deaf elder abuse of senior citizen victim after my dad and mom died.

    I had many frustrations that most Los Angeles County pro bona attorneys denied to assist with any deaf Los Angeles elder abuse of senior citizen’s constitution and protection rights since 2009 to continue now.

    If you know of any Los Angeles County pro bona attorney is willing to assist our behalf for elder abuse of senior citizen’s constitution and protection rights at this time.

    Any comment to e-mail to: deafelderabusevictim@live.com

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